The argument on 2ndlight was dingo had priority so it doesnt matter, damo would have been interfering… is that the case? looks like dingo was going to miss the wave completely and “..oops must have gotten tangled:….
Looked to me like Damian was hassling Dingo pretty hard all heat. All over him like a rash.. Aussies like to get a bit physical just like kiwis. Dingo has a mix of both…
I hear ya.. That is what I thought watching it… Dingo clearly gets caught out of position, figures might as well snag it and see what happens.. works in his favor this time.
Didnt work out so well for him in the next round though.. At least the French soccer player admited being wrong, even though the judges did not change that call either
Either Damo saw a massive Lobster and couldn’t resist or that was the best leash pull since Lance Burkhart.
What an anticlimactic ending to a great Triple crown. An air won the Pipe Masters??? Same ending in ‘07. No one will remember in a few years because it was 3′ slop.. All the goofies that remained went down in small backdoor. Was the forecast that bad or did they just want to end the Pipe Masters earlier in the waiting period because the remaining surfers wanted to go home for the holidays?
God´s is the true judge…you and Damien are the best surfers in the world man…and it´s not fair…I see all the heat and it´s seems so strange Damo fall in that wave…but Dean in this way will never get so far…Come on..
He knew he was too far away to make the wave so there was no way to legitimately get an interference call. He was going to lose the heat on that last one so he pulled Damo off his board. Totally cheated–totally lame.
Sorry guys, but it is WAY worst than it looks. It was Dingo’s second incident in this year’s triple crown. In Haleiwa, in his heat on the round of 32, he pulled the same tactics against the brazilian Andre Silva, who complaint publicly for the brazilian press. In that case, Dingo was in the last place on the heat and pulled the rash guard and the leash of the brazilian several times to help Parko and Kai Otton . Since nothing happened, he did it again in Pipe and guess what? Nothing happened again…
Dingo sucks!!!
Dingo showed his true colors…Damo you are the man and I can’t believe it went down like that. Good work Ceej for posting this for sure. BTW, congrat’s to Taj! He was so stoked, fun to watch him so genuinely happy. Have fun tonight, boys.
thats why kelly wants to creat his own tour … judges are fucking blind… its was so clear… this is not a clean game… dingo must have shown some respect for his tour mate … one thing is: if he was able to do the wave ok … but by his fault he was far outside and was never doing the drop … wtf, dingo made a mistake and tryed to fix it, cheating damo ….
The thing everyone is missing is that the goods are done and really have been for a couple of years. see any photos of them in the mags lately or anyone giving them any love in videos? we’ll see where they and Globe go from here but i am betting more whining is in there future
@ohboy you must have missed CJ’s cover shot a month ago on transworld surf… you clown. the fact that you are looking at their blog shows that they are getting exposure, and last I checked, finishihg top 10 in the world is not a great indication of someone’s career being “done”. take your hate elsewhere.
p.s. i love dingo, but it sucks that he would pull b.s. like that. from campaign 2 “don’t surf with dingo. i repeat, don’t surf with the dingo. he will snake you.”
I’d give him the benefit of the doubt. Granted it IS possible that he could have legitimately pulled the leash by accident, they were both paddling pretty hard and very close. BUT you’d actually have to grip it somewhere in your arm or hand, no such thing as “tangle” with leash by arm. I mean, if dingo’s arm is in the loop of the leash, it still wouldn’t have pulled like that, it would eventually slip off, that’s just my opinion in the water. leash had to be grabbed to be pulled like that so taunt, unless dingo’s arm is eternally crooked or “hooked” 45 degrees like a boomerang.
@oh boy, we’re discussing a legitimate concern here you come in a bash people’s character. who the hell are you?? LOL the goods aint done, follow the ratings, they perform more consistently than other overhypped and over sponsored atheletes.
I think the judges are afraid to accuse anyone of such hideous actions or refuse to believe it. It’s not that they are biased or favor anyone but it’s just the nature that people would prefer to perceive others in a non confrontational way, especially if it’s ambiguous like today.
@drago
your psycho despite cjs cover shot which was driven by soon to be bankrupt globe
look at the big picture. these guys are short, balding twins and they are done. They are not kelly, dorian or even taylor and that is pathetic. aloha.
oh boy
@oh boy, LOL you are the one that sounds pathetic right now ROFL arguing with logical fallacies by attacking the person rather than evidence. the ignorance hahahaha
..and Deano did it again and he’ll be doing this more and more…
As Daniel said above this is the second time he bukharted someone only in this hawaiian season.
First it was André Silva, now damo.
This is the interview of André talking about his case.
“I’m disgusted with the attitude of Dean Morrison! It is unacceptable that happens that kind of thing in a competition of this level, I could have missed, the wave closed, etc.. But an unsportsmanlike attitude that level has no justification,” complains Andre.
“We battle the whole year traveling the world to run the league and losing is normal, but dirty game I do not admit it. I am angry and said that for him in the water! Do not want to change the results, just need to vent, because I owe it to Brazilians that cheer for me, my family, friends and sponsors, “terminating the Brazilian.
The goods are nowhere near being done! they are phenomenal surfers!! Still my favourite surfers to watch at real barreling surf spots like chopes and cloudbreak!
Take your hating somewhere else, these guys are some of the nicest surfers out there and are a great example for groms to follow. We need more surfers like the hobgoods
Damo is a man. He did enough to maintain his composure. I would have had a hard time not smacking Dino lights out had I been in Damo’s place. Good job for the hard fought battle and the evidence that you are of good class and character.
Looks like Gerry Lopez should have been the Water Patrol Judge instead of on the beach! I watched the heat and stopped watching when I saw that. Good job Damo for keeping your cool. Such a world class sportsman, I would probably have lost it in the heat of the moment.
@ “ohboy” (the nameless coward)…keep telling yourself that before you draw them in your heat. Next time you want to attack someone personally on a website, man up and sign your name.
the goods are done… haha. ceejs section in stranger than fiction solidified him as one of my favorite surfers. its my favorite section easily cause he just hucks himself off anything dropping in switch and stomping sketched out landings. not to mention hes farking top ten you knob. their style is soo fun to watch. theyve got life in them yet. and theyre really consistent competitively.
This ones for oh boy and all the other overly critical commentators out there. I have to say Damien and CJ are two of the most genuine and sincere people I know and for them to be victim to this madness is really wrong. All the hype in this nearly corrupted surf industry creates harsh judgements towards the athletes who hold the foundation of the sport. So as for Dingo and Damo, I wasn’t in the water and so I won’t judge. Just remember were you stand, and making any harsh remarks towards the esthetics of either of them is pretty low.
I don’t think the outcome of the heat would’ve changed even if Dingo hadn’t interfered with Damo’s chance at the wave. It looks as though the wave didn’t offer much scoring potential after that first section. It sucks that the whole thing went down the way it did, but that’s surfing. Try to remember all the hassles and paddle battles that you’ve gone through to catch a wave. I think we are all guilty of something along the lines of what Dingo did or didn’t do, wether it be sneaking a good one out from a friend or dropping in on someone not skilled enough to surf the wave in question, I know I am.
Looked like he pulled the leash on purpose. But I would want to talk to Dean Morrison to see what he says– Just ask, it’s easy to see if a guy is lying.
Picture this: if the roles were reversed, the ENTIRE Aussie contigent would have bum-rushed the judges tent. I can see it now, Jay Thompson holding Perry Hatchett in a headlock, while Parko, Mick, Kai, Taj, Adrian and the rest of the Aussies beat him like he’s Rodney King. LOL!
Get a grip. He may have done it on purpose…or it might be an accident. The judges clearly thought it was an accident. It didn’t even affect the result!
The issue has nothing to do with intentional or unintentional leash pull. The judges job was to make a call “was their interference from either surfer on the last wave?”. They never addressed the real issue.It is not up to them to analyze the “intentions” of the athlete.They are suppose to make the call by what they see.
The sport will never improve if judges are going to allow “intentions” by the athletes to rule their calls. Other sports do not allow it.
Aloha C.J. and Damo
Congrats on another brilliant season,
Damien great to have you back in the top 10
(into 9th from 22nd)
You are the Most Improved Surfer statisticlly,
Damo and Jordy are both 13 spots better than last seasons finish…. Jordy 11th from 24th.
And Ceej started 2009 in 5th and is now 7th,
funny thing is Ceej went into Pipe in 4th position
and dropped to 7th after finishing 5th @ Pipeline, Your too consistent mate,
Throwing away 1200 point for the season is way too much… I aht to say it but sometimes I wish you would exist early. But still win…
Ceej is the only surfer to go 9th or better for the whole season.
Ceej’s average event result for 2009 was 6.20,
World Champion Mick Fanning 6.0 ..
R/U Joel Parkinson 8.60 ..
No’ 5 – Adriano 10.80ave …
You guys did it again…
Almost identical stats for the season;
Both had 61% win ratios …
Ceej ave score was 12.95, and Damo’s 12.98.
Ceej surfed in 6 final series with 8 finals heats,
Damien surfed 4 final series with 6 heats …
Careers at the end of 2009…
C.J; 2001 World Champion ..
112 events .. 359 heats .. 198 wins .. 55%w/r ..
(57 finals) 33 quarters .. 17 semis .. 7 finals for 4 wins.
Damien; 2005 Number 4 ..
98 Events .. 316 heats .. 166 wins .. 53%w/r ..
(53 finals) 29 quarters .. 14 semis .. 10 finals for 4 wins.
Pretty identical after doing the maths for the difference in events surfed…
Spooky, how many Hobgoods are there anyway?
Thanks to you guys for letting me write my stuff on your site this season, I am always having a look at you site, you have some colourful charactors in your bloggs.
Aloha have a great Christmas and hope your readers didn’t mind my little rambles from time to time about the number that the World Best Surfers lay down for us to witness.
It a good era…
Aloha
Mike @ RAS stats.
One final thing;
If you like soccer, you might like the soccer game I have on my website…
Very tough call. Could have gone easily the other way. Dingo had priority and was paddling for the wave and Damo interfered with Dingo’s ability to catch the wave. Just b/c I say this doesn’t mean I’m not rooting for the Goods brothers. I want them to win every heat. Hey – I’m from Sat Beach too and surfed with those grommies growing up.
Let us not forget: BOTH CJ and Damo finished in the Top 10 this year. That hasn’t happened since 2005. STOKED!
I think “M” is spot on. It could very well been unintentional. Though I’ve never been a contest competitor to speak of the little hassleing contests you get into with your surf buddies trying to jap the good waves from each other can produce a result like that. It’s probably happened to all of us who participate in free surf sesh’s with your buds. I’ve snagged my hand and arm in somebody’s leash and had it done to me. No harm no foul in that context, but in one of the most (if not THE most) prestigious contest, the infraction MUST be punished with intent considered when doleing out the punishment. I was a soccer referee for years, if the foul was in my judgement unintentional, I’d just whistle the foul, if I thought it was intentional or reckless, along with a yellow or red card. Just my 2 cents.
It would be interesting to find out if any of the photographers in the water managed to take a picture of “Dingogate” as it was occurring (Not sure if they’re were any there to begin with).
Shame, that was a low move. ASP need to investigate if something like this happens. 90,000 on the line, there is no excuse. Leashes can get tangled, but no way a leash would pull like that unless you had it firmly gripped in your hand. Dean had priority but couldn’t get in the wave. Obviously he didn’t want Damo to either. ASP judges blew it. Dean cheated.
Deano has priority, so really damo can’t paddle battle him? he goes for a wave (dean) which he could have caught, but damo is kinda blocking him, at the last minute in frustration dean grabs damiens leash underwater.
@Damo, what happened when you paddled back out? Did dean say anything? Did you?
Wether or not the leash pull was intentional doesn’t matter. After Dingo missed the wave, thus losing priority Damo’s leah was pulled while getting to his feet. This action csaused him to fall on his wave and lose any chance of getting the score he needed. All this was clear to see on the video which the head judge had access to review. make your own assumptions from there. Sorry Damo ’bout that one, but great surfing as always.
@oh boy: Dude, so what then…Dingo’s the next member of Modern Collective??? Kai’s calling him up right now huh? “You’re on the cutting edge mate!” The Dingo newest member of MC hahahahahah!!
any respect i had for dingo is now gone. Even if damien was blocking him from the wave, that was a tactical move and it seems to have worked and dingo realizing this got pissed and grabbed his leash. thats total bull. this is a professional sport and if you want people to look at it legitimately then the head judges shouldnt be afraid to call someone out on cheating
Hey blokes a contest is a contest. Its about winning and that’s what I did, win. We’re all happy to be on tour making money doing what we love. Cheers Damo let’s have a cold one after the Snapper contest with the boys next season mate! I’m riding the birdie home Friday.
I saw it real time on the webcast and then watched the clip on this page repeatedly. Do I think that Dean Morrison is the kind of person that would do this? I don’t know him, you two do. My impression is that he’s a scrappy Goldy kid who had Rabbit as his legal guardian and mentor growing up so it’s certainly possible. But for what it’s worth, and I have no emotion attachment to it either way, my honest opinion is that he didn’t grab the leash intentionally. Regardless, Morrison had priority and Damien was pushing it, they both were hassling all heat long. Damien paddled for a wave that the surfer with priority was paddling for. That’s an interference. So the question is was it a double interference. I would’ve have checked for marks on Morrison’s arm because if you’ve ever gotten hung up in someone’s leash like that, and I have, it leaves a red mark. If he grabbed it, there’d be no mark. He said in the interview afterward that he didn’t pull the leash. He’s either a man of his word or he’s not. You and the other surfers on the tour would know best.
But CJ and Damo, the judging has been suss all year on the ASP. The surfers seriously need to get that sorted out. I don’t expect them to be perfect, just professional. It’s not there.
PS – Reportedly Bob Slater called you two the ‘best tuberiders in the world’. Considering forehand and backhand into the equation, it would be difficult to argue against him and that’s quite a compliment.
Dude! Most of it’s been said already, but I enjoy the analytical side of things and looked this incident over and over again last night….
Although I was undoubtedly rooting for Damo so my opinion might seem a little skewed, but the fact that dingos one arm is windmilling and his other is pulling back seems quite questionable, on top of the fact he wasn’t getting into the wave with that line and also proceeded to be very worried at the end of the heat. It shouldn’t have mattered that dingo had priority…Damo often takes heats during the dying seconds which makes him that much more exciting to watch..
I hope the ASP improves their ways..
…and to add: I’m super stoked for CJ’s consistency (zero 17ths this year) and Damo’s back in the top ten!
Loved CJ’s TEN best wave of the comp.
nice work great info, pretty creepy hey? i’ve always looked at other identical twins as kinda creepy and with this info, we’ll I can’t even hang with my bro anymore.
You could argue that “leash tugging” is allowed, if done with priority?
The problem is deano did what he needed to do, (it was ultimately left to the judges) its unfair for damien, you only needed a 3.83 & would have gotten that score.
U.G. is completely correct. If you watch the higher quality video on surfline (link below), you can tell that he’s only paddling with 1 arm. Unintentional, give me a farking break. My question is that if it was ruled as intentional, then what would be the penalty???? anyone know??? perhaps one of dingay’s scores would be cut in half?? If anyone knows, let it be known.
@ bill clifton…Dingay didn’t “need” to do that. It was a last ditch effort that probably wasn’t even necessary. the wave looked like a closeout. He made himself look like a scumbag. His bs interview with GT following the heat showed that he was desperate to let everyone know that “I was just paddling and my arm got tangled…blah blah blah.. i don’t know what the judges are gonna say…blah blah blah..” Dingay should just man up and admitt it.
If we add up all the waves in all the frothing full pack crowds all the people who have commented on this vid have caught we won’t find one, “Oh I got totally tangled and couldn’t let go”. I’ve bee surfing for 34 years, If you feel a leash you stop paddling and its gone (Unless its Newport, then its leverage)
@Bill clifton> um, that’s a good point man. I don’t know where the line is. paddling around, under, or over seems to occur frequently but leash pulling is on a different level. Dingay would have dropped in if he could’ve caught the wave, but did Damo block him? I’m not sure about blocking as interference. It’s interesting non the less.
i don’t think dingo pulled the leash intentionally. i’ve done it before by mistake and i’ve had it done to me by mistake. i’d bet you dingo never even saw damo’s leash. however, i was bummed. i wanted a hobgood to get the title!
Damien would know by how hard his leg was tugged whether it was intentional. If it was a mistake it was still dangerous. The judges should have been men and made the DQ call if nothing else than just to remove the huge liability they’d have if Damien had been inured. Not a big fan of the judges or Dingo right now. Bravo to ceej for not folding on this one.
u guys need to realize that just cuz dingo had priority that doesnt mean damien isnt aloud to paddle for the wave. he is most certainty aloud to paddle for it and when dingo missed the wave priority immediately switches to damien and that makes it his wave. so regardless if it accidental or not he still interfered with damien on the wave.
I saw Damo interviewed in Australia early this year and he appears to be a very humble and gracious bloke. By not commenting on this grubby incident he has shown great sportsmanship. That said I would have been pissed if my brother posted this after I had asked him not to.
Great show of character Damo. Gone up a notch in my book.
Have a beer after Snapper next year. Maybe Dean is available after Round 2. Again.
If he pulled the cord it was because ‘Bong told him how he was getting paid. They didn’t tell him this is how he will be remembered in most of the world.
Good point, Trav! Priority doesn’t mean he owns the ocean. I was in Target yesterday with my daughter. She likes to hang on to the front of the shopping cart while I push it. I stopped suddenly and she flew forward and almost took out a whole aisle of vaccuums. She was NOT cool with it even though I told her it wasn’t intentional.
I thought it was preety obvious he grabbed his leash. I believe that the surfers should handle this individually if the judges wont. I mean Sunny chased Neco across the beach for taking off on the same wave.. Damo and Ceej, you guys are too nice, Dingo is a midget and a someone needed to land a quick one on his jaw. If that happened during a freesurf at pipe against a Kala or wolfpack guy, there woulod have been blood. WOuld Dean have pulled that shit on SUnny, ANdy, Makua, or even mick cambell? I lvoe Dean morrisons surfing, and @oh boy, Dingo’s won how many contests on tour, 1, and the goods have won numerous in real waves that arnt the break they;ve grown up at…
I am happy to see that Dingo won the heat and a Hobgood surfer got bumped. The Hobgoods are the most boring surfers to watch. Dingo blows them away twice over.
most boring surfers to watch? yah I hate seeing cj and damo take off the latest in the biggest barrel, pull off the sickest maneuvers in the dying seconds, have 10 foot fly-aways and land one footed aerials and ride away in the tube….SUPER BORING… but what’s super fun is watching a stiff barrel rider do the same thing over and over again.
Sorry that’s just not needed… they rip and are so spontaneous, it’s awesome to watch!
That sucks. Dingo looks like a duchebag and the asp looks incompetent. At the very least this should be a double interference. I never thought much of Dingo or his surfing but now I will be hoping he looses. Can someone from the ASP clarify how the fuck leash pulling is ever ok? I mean seriously if I have priority can I just punch the guy hasseling me? That would be easier and hell he’d be out the whole heat with an interpherance for getting in my priority ass way. Fuck dingo! He should apologize.
Damo may have interfered himself. But having sayed that, there is no doubt that Dingo interfered with Damo whether it was intentional or not. The judges pussed out.
Damo did you have priority ? Intentionally or not you interfered trying to snake a wave. The Dingo with priority couldn’t get past you and ended up tangled/grabbing your leash, kinda proving how close you put yourself, IN THE WAY! Doesn’t matter about your fall from the leash snag cause you were in the wrong! Tanks for the drama!
there was clearly enough room for dingo to take off on that wave…only problem was he didn’t get into the wave. if he would have actually gotten teh wave this wouldn’t matter because just by standing up damo would have been interfering..but dingo missed the wave so he grabbed the leash…plus do you honestly think that since dingo’s willing to pull leashes he’s not willing to take off sort of somewhat close to somebody during a contest?
I personally was rooting for Damo and was irate when dingo pulled his leash. I sensed a chip on dingos shoulder the whole comp too. One other thing, Kelly has def been underscored this year and specifically at pipe. I’m stoked for taj, and he won in the final no doubt, but Kelly is getting slightly underscored- maybe the powers that be have shifted a bit?
1. Innocent until proven guilty (We have no idea)
2. Paddling into a wave close enough to a surfer with priority for a leash incident to happen
3. This slander is equally unsportsmanlike
The way I see it Dingo had priority and Damo cut him of by blocking his entry into the wave.
Dingo my have possibly made the wave but once Damo got underneath him he and blocked him his momentum was impeded.
I don’t know if the leash pull was intentional or not but it dosn’t really come into it as Damo made the first foul.
On the Stab website they say the judges were split. One called interference on Damo, One called interference on Dingo, and one couldn’t make up his mind.
So it was definitely a close call and could have gone either way
However I would like to commend Damo on how he has handled the situation. We know he’s pissed off and could’ve been on this website spouting all kinds of crap but he has taken it on the chin like a man and a professional so good on you Damo!
@ Chris Williams. Regarding Kelly being underscored at pipe this year.
Are you kidding?
Kelly got the overall highest heat scores for each and every one of the 4 rounds he competed in leading up to the final.
Hardly the result you’d expect for someone that was “underscored”
Yeah, someone sad it all, DINGO IS THE MOST FRUSTATED COLLY KID, thats why he made it to Damien (in pipe) and Andre Silva (in sunset). If the surf wants to be a great recognize sport ASP SHOULD OPEN YOU EYES!
This mostly to dingo as I know he will read it eventually.
The fact that you actually stated You are there to win is such crap.. So it is fine for you to do that. It is then also fine to bite someone’s ear off, or break his arm or tackle him dangerously or what ever.. Putting someone at risk by doing something like what you did “as a professional sportsman” not only puts you in the wrong but it sure as hell shows your attitude to the “SPORT” that we (your fans) love.
I’m sure you have and will loose a lot of fans in this. CONGRATS AT YOUR WINNING SUICIDE! You definitely have lost at least 5 fans just from around my desk.
Congrats Ceej and Damo.. Seeing how you play the game and keeping your wits about you is always nice to watch. Keep it up and I’ll be rooting for you!
Congrats to Ceej and Damo….. You guys have made this site a great place for fantasy geeks and followers of the sport alike to come to for inside info. Great finish for both of you guys on the year. My 2cents on the call. From what i understand the only reason that it could have been called on Damo is if he (Dingo) was on a catchable wave. He had no chance of catching that wave. If you look at his post heat interview you can tell he knew he did something wrong. He had no confidence in the fact that he was in the right and Damo was in the wrong. Tactics are tactics but that was just a cheap trick, one he has had a history of using before. Karma is a biatch and it will catch up with him. I never been a huge fan of his surfing although i think he is a great backdoor surfer but crap like that makes people who really follow and love the sport realize who are the guys who succeed with class and who are the ones with no class. Sucks to be a classless Dingo. Have a great off season and maybe see you at the inlet CJ.
if it’s any conciliation….The asp has come a long way in may the better surfer win. Damien Hardman won a world title by pretending to duck dive a wave then letting it suck him over the falls so he could stand up in the whitewash with priority and the surfer riding way down the line would be deemed an interference….anyways sorry Damo you got the raw end of the deal and the asp still has a few things to work on.
If Damien was blocking him Dean should have paddled straight into him to get the call. One judge called it on Damien, one on Dean. Without a leash pull it sounds like a paddling interference is called on Damien.
Anyway Dean’s a known burn artist and the Hobgoods are famed for their lineup etiquette – spent enough of the mid/late 90s @ SI/MH to experience it myself. Lots of these pros would burn us all for a chance at a flyaway photo – utmost respect to two we know won’t. Go Goods in ‘10.
Was Damo arguably interfering with Dingo’s line and ability to catch the wave? Yes
WERE BOTH SURFERS IN THE WRONG? YES
In my opinion, Damo should have not even paddled for that wave. Damo essentially put Dingo in the position of HAVING to pull the leash to ensure that either the paddling interference was called or he won the heat. There was no other strategic option. It’s like in the NBA when a player swats the ball well after the foul so that there is absolutely no chance of the “and 1″.
Come on ‘Goods….can you see it from this perspective? You’re smart guys.
everybody who thinks damo shouldnt have paddled for that wave needs to understand there is nothing in the asp rule book that says if one surfer has priority then the other surfer cant paddle for the wave. damo could have easily been called for a paddling interference and dingo needed to leave that up to the judges to make that call but blatantly pulling a leash to win the heat is unacceptable in pro surfing. there needed to be an interference call made whether it be damo on dingo or dingo on damo or they could have easily called a double interference.
BOTTOM LINE IS THE JUDGES NEED TO GROW SOME BALLS AND WHEN A SITUATION LIKE THAT OCCURS MAKE A CALL.
The Leash Pull. Firstly I am unbiased to both these surfers and will try and break it down with out taking sides.
Dingo had Priority, which means if he can take any wave he wants even if Damo was already on it. However Damo is still aloud to paddle for any wave he wants as long as it doesn’t interfere with the other surfer.
In this case, Dingo paddled towards the wave with a lower chance of catching the wave….he needed to catch the wave to keep Damo of it. If Dingo caught the wave then it would be his wave and if Damo caught it as well then he would get interference.
Now, Damo did paddle for the wave from under Dingo, they were a little to eachothers side, but Damo was in front and had a lot of wash coming of him as he paddled….this could have resulted in Dingo not been able to catch the wave and thus would be an interference on Damo.
However, Dingo got caught onto Damo’s Leash….whether intentional or unintentional….this is an interference.
This would then mean a double interference call would be made…..in that case, each surfer would lose half of their lower scoring wave.
Dingo had a 6.33 and a 4.67, he would then lose half of that 4.67 which would give him a total of: 8.67
Damo had a 7.17 and a 3.00, he would then lose half of that 3.00 which would give him a total of: 8.67
So then they are tied….it would then go to a count back…which is who has the next highest scoring wave
Damo’s next highest scoring wave was a 2.63.
Dingo’s next highest scoring wave was a 2.00.
Therefore Damo wins the heat and progresses through to the semi.
I hope that all made sense….but that is what could have happened, but the judges are worked pretty hard and have to make quick decisions, this stuff took me 15mins to do, they don’t have 15mins the have more like 15secs….so that is why sometimes these calls get made and people get all bummed out. But it happens in every sport and is all part of the game.
Truth be known….if you pull someone’s leggie, intentionally or unintentionally you should be made to paddle out naked and have your leggie pulled on set of the day! Then where a t-shirt out the front of the local surf shop disclosing your surf debauchery on Christmas Eve the busiest time of year for your surf shop!
Complete bullshit — the ASP should have disqualified Dingo on the spot. To me it’s pretty clear Dingo pulled Damo’s leash. During the Haleiwa event, Dingo pulled the shirt of a Brazilian competitor on two separate waves during final moments of the heat. See the news link (in portuguese):
The count back goes to the surfer with the highest wave in the heat which would have been damo with a 7.17. the only reason they would go to the next highest score was if they both tied on there highest wave score.
I’m so sick of KKKristians, Hobgoblins, blaming god for victory/da devil for loss! What the ha, scores for Herwaiians were at least 2 above all ,and MacNamarra, well,baby showing up at Ruggles during best Hurricane swell of decade with your SUP, grabbing all the set waves, then you got pounded at the bay and Pipe- karma’s a bitch! Dingo, wild dog man, atheists, awwwoooooooooooo! ps- now that Tiger’s been outed for roids’, how about drug testin the boiz’ ; they grew awful big, awful fast!
Hassling is part of this ’sport’ that used to be an ‘art’, but, as the last commentor stated (who’ll soon burn in Armageddon), the introduction of energy-performing drinks as contest sponsors? (caffeine, guanine, sterazine, meth?) and injections takes all bets off the table.Drug testing should be mandatory. Both surfers were aggro, but that’s what calvinism (dominion over natural world) and capitalism ($90,000) create and has nothing to do with one’s own path to enlightenment! How about a tour with shear expression sessions? Floaters/aerials in knee-deep water promise a lifetime as a hobbled adult and possible poor parent, so keep the carves, barrel rides, toes-on -the-nose, classy, glassy! ps- thanx for open forum, D and CJ!
Sunny’s whining and technicolor grab of his (NO) jersey from Rarick because he’s (still) not responsible enough to get to his heat puts the competitive ‘edging’ of Dingo to shame! I will save my money and go climb the last glaciers that are being melted by all the hot air that comes from ‘the sport of kings’?
WOW i was just trying to find the bottom of the page 130 comments and counting thats heavy lot of people fire up on this toipc if he did pull the leash then thats pretty bad sports man ship how ever Dean did have priority so thats how its going to end and you can debate it to death but its donw they are not going to re do the comp now.
I Think we should be more shocked that Taj was sticking Airs in a Comp i mean the guys a Air freak but i have seen countless times hes blowen them in a comp so go TB for sorting that out! shame it was a slightly more consistan heat surf wise was pertty one sided and how under scored was Slater on that barrel i mean wtf.
now lets all move on let Damo get on with it i’m sure hes greatfull for the support and every thing but i’m guessing he wants to forget about it now peace seasons greatings boys hope you have a great Xmas with the Family
see yas next year
Andy
All you people saying why didnt Dingo just take off and get an interferance its cause Damo paddled right under him. If youve ever surfed a full on crowded session youll no its pretty hard to paddle for a wave when theres some one right in front of you. Its also a well known snake tactict so one could argu that Damo snaked Dingo.
Dingo with prority should have unconditional right of way. Sorry CJ your an amazing surfer and show why the top 10 are on a different level to the rest but your fucking stirring the pot here mate and Id expect Brodey Carr will be sending you a letter regarding bringing the ASp into dispute.
Poor form CJ. Of coarse the majority of people are going to support your case on this site because most of them are your fans, not Dingos. You really are just making a big deal out of something that will happen once in a while because Damo is your brother and mate. Your pretty much making Dingo sound like a liar and a cheat and mate thats bullshit. If you really did respect him you wouldnt put this up on a public site and should have talk to Perry and the surfer reps first and not have posted this on here.
I am a great fan of competitive surfing and this is one of the most ridiculous things I ever seem in professional surfing!
ASP –Association of Professional Surfers?
I guess all the surfers, judges, ASP staff, media must became 100% professional, because this kind of cheat is unacceptable in any sport these days!
Why only in surfing they still protecting some athletes from troubles?
He cheated and he must pay for this!
We are all surfers and we know that no one’s fall of the board like that without some help, especially one of the best surfers in the world like Damo!
Ask ASP to punish him as they did with Neco few years ago!
How many Sunny’s, Makuas, Dingo’s and Neco’s must appear to someone have an attitude?!
Put this Dingo (new version of Lance Burkhart) on a leash!
Let’s fight for a fare and respectful competitive environment!
Aloha
@Ricardo hear what your saying but your not looking at both sides Dean had prority and damo paddled under him to get the wave you could argue that dean wasn’t going to get the wave but no one will know if you watched the heat you would have seen that it was pretty hard fort heat from the get go.
To be slaging off the head judge is pretty harsh i mean it had to affect on the out come it was deans wave in the end and ok Damo may have got the score on it like dean said it was my wave.
Why complain? It was an interference. So what if Dingo’s arm got ‘tangled’ up with ya leash. If you did not interfere, it would not have happened. The rules are the rules and the judges ruled accordingly.
Come on, the waves were weak.. he was just going for some extra power for the take off!
No really, I think the call was only made cuz he had priority. I´m not trully sure about this, but if priority was with Damo and he had got the wave(no leash pulling) could Dingo get interference for the rassling?
And again, suppose the leash thing did not happen, and Damo (with no priority) makes the wave. Would he get interference?
Crazy shit…
Damo and Dingo…Dingo and Damo… dudes…see the stroke of dingo to catch the wave…now be sincer… we pull the leash his left arm is in the water a long time…so in my opinion…that is a interference… And Prioraty is not avalable because he isn’t in the right place to catch the wave… if he catch it he would wipeout!
This wouldn’t happen if mister tiger shark whas there!!!
this wouldn’t even be an issue if a CALL was made, i really wish they would of just called a paddling interferance on Damien.
just seems like such Pandoras Box since a call wasn’t made?..
forget the sport forget the names
a handball in soccer, is not a handball if it wasn’t intentional?… a hit below the belt in boxing is ok if it wasn’t intentional. imagine if the rest of the sporting world referees opperated that way.
SURFING SUCKS! I’m a free surfer now, i refuse to surf small waves and the WQS but i live in florida wait…
I was watching it live. At the time it seemed it wasn’t on purposed, but when I watched on surfline.com and then here on this blog I realized he made it on purpose.
You can see that he tried to grab Damien’s jersey and then grabbed his leash.
Dean had already done the same thing in a heat against the brazilian Andre Silva.
They cannot let this go unpunished!
In any other sport the “athlete” would be punished.
But the ASP is not a serious association. They let everything go.
They didn’t punished Sunny Garcia when he beated Neco Padaratz in the same event some yars ago. I thing they just made him pay a fee of $1.000 or something like that. He should be suspended.
My best wishes to the Hobgood’s. You’re trully professional surfers.
Sooo…in the best conclusion we…have…is…
If you are competing in the CT don’t wear a leash… kick some asses… and slice some skulls with your fins!!! EASSSSYYYYY!!!!
That’s Life… It’s just Unfair!!!
“it sucks”… yeah…that was what she said!!! Next time kick him in the balls…our beat him in the mouth!!
Yah I xpresd miself wrong. The judges did not make a call. I agree that calling
an interference on Damian would be best. It would give priority its respect! or is that something
they trying to sell?? Paddling on someone´s else wave is OK.. lineups should be dog fight..
I saw a wave Kelly paddled and it was clear the other surfer´s wave. It was a case of heat priority, Kelly was on his
first 20 minutes (no priority) and should have been busted!
My 2cents on heat priority. I think heat priority should be more respected than surfer priority. Surfer on his no priority part of the heat
should be very aware of the surfers with priority on their heat. And in case of calling a interference, it should just be less 2 points of his lowest, but in case of second interference surfer
should leave the water, because he´s not respecting heat priority! Respecting heat priority is key for a good dual heat format. Respect it and at your time you wont have sessions of a perfect wave
coming down sooner cuz some freak is going aggro
About surfer priority, inside the heat, then you´re battling against the guy!choose your weapons!! Go aggro! Or split the peak and smoke your opponent on the exchange, then is all about
strategy, you and your opponent.
life is beatifull, people sometimes just don´t get it..
few last words.. my dog bugs some turists at the beach here sometimes… some turists come to complain asking if the dog is mine, but I pull a dingo on them! Opps.. sorry.. it must have scaped
I’ve known CJ and Damien ever since they were young teenagers. You won’t find two finer characters and ambassadors to the sport. CJ, it’s obvious the people who are making ill comments about you and Damien know little about the sport and less about you two. Just random hate without knowledge or purpose and every message board has idiots like this. You can also tell by some of the 4th grade spelling on these comments we’re not dealing with geniuses. I watched this heat live and was stunned. Anyone who thinks someone could faceplant that hard without their leash being held solid is deceiving themselves. The good thing is Flynn Novak had the guts in his Transworld interview to say the leash was definitely pulled as he had a front row seat in the adjoining heat. The only thing funny about this is Damien’s sense of humor even while he was about as pissed as anyone would be upon surfacing after the fall. Flynn said he started screaming “North Shore”. Now Dean has got to overcome a very tarnished reputation. Here’s where I believe the character and sportsmanship you and Damien have displayed your whole careers will pay off. I hope to see you guys in the coming year. Congratulations on a fantastic year and finish.
By the way. ha ha. Horseteeth! I was waiting for that to come up. Comments section in the Stabmag article. Maybe he should’ve smiled and blinded Damien instead with those chiklets. He’d look right with a bit in his mouth and a set of blinders. Looked like a set of teeth with a beard during the interviews.
I’m not sure if its been broken down yet because there are too many posts, but if you watch the video its clear that it was intentional.
At first, both damo and dingo are paddling for the wave. as damo begins to scoot past dingo, you can watch him look for his leash, then his left arm takes a half paddle as compared to the rest of his paddles, and then it grabs and stops paddling, while his right arm continues to paddle the entire time giving the illusion that he was tring to paddle. a classless move by a classless man.
Dry your eyes girls. Damo hassled him the entire heat and then tried to snake him at the end. It was embarrassing, got what he deserved. That’s why priority exists, any competitive surfer with half a brain would have used their priority there. You’re attacking the character of one of the nicest blokes on the tour. I think the real issue here is that it was an Australian World Champion, Australian Triple Crown and an Australian Pipe Masters. Maybe next time ladies, harden up and quit with the petty comments.
@Samsonator. Before you choke on all three of the Aussie champion’s spigots you may want to let the comments sink in a bit. This forum is regarding a dirty move by ONE of the surfers who couldn’t man up through the rigorous battling that happens in some heats. The true professional is a warrior that uses all LEGAL methods at his disposal, especially in wave starved heats, to win. The ONLY Aussie comeback on all these forums, such as FS, is crying. I saw a river of tears when Taj lost to Kelly at Trestles in ‘08. Taj never really put it on the line in that heat so he lost. Kelly’s repertoire was so far beyond Taj’s flicky half turns in that heat. But it was sooo hard to see through all the bitter Aussie tears. You KNOW Dingoberry is dirty, and that he’s been dirty long before Damien met him in this heat, so save your breath. Bottom line, he was Burkharted becuase his competitor was scared he would lose to a more talented competitor. Otherwise, he should have let him drop in, or better yet, dropped in himself, since the Aussie’s claim he could’ve caught that wave, and caused an interference.
Hey Ceej,
I think the solution, like everything else these days its seems, is to go wireless. I’ll contract XM to develop a wireless tethering system to go along with their tangle free and quick release options. it will probably retail for about $20k.
The biggest issue for me is Dingo’s “I had priority” innocence plea and his self empowering decision to “not let the guy without priority have a wave.” Dingo is whack SOLELY because there was no intereference call on Damo.
Maybe the solution is kind of like the challenge flag in football. every competitior gets one judges challenge per year which he can exercise before the end of the heat by a hand signal. This would force the judges to closely evaluate the situation after speaking to the surfers, make a clear decision and then clarify publicly to competitors and spectators. How much attention could the judges pay to the situation without a fair break in the action to allow for proper deliberation.
[...] always psyched to watch his heats. CJ rips! He also isn’t scared to start some shit. CJ is a likable guy. He may have a failed marriage behind him, but another world title is [...]
ex.1// vikings vs. saints playoff game bad calls in overtime keep vikings out of super bowl NFL now say referee calls made on field were wrong (in particular the pass interference call that led to game-winning field goal)
this is related in the debate of. trying to legitimize surfing as a SPORT
ex.2// damo vs. dingo leash pull keeps damo from progressing in pipemasters ASP needs to see too
good comments on this one, wanted to ramble on a little
December 15th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
For the record I have a great deal of respect for dingo and the ASP judges, Damo didn’t even want me to put this up.
However I think this was something I couldn’t brush under the rug.
LOL peeps
c
December 15th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
that was bullshit
December 15th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
No way, he pulled a Lance Burkhart, “it’s the nature of the beast”
December 15th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Maybe Perry need some glasses to watch the heats better…
This act was ridiculous for Dingo
December 15th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
The argument on 2ndlight was dingo had priority so it doesnt matter, damo would have been interfering… is that the case? looks like dingo was going to miss the wave completely and “..oops must have gotten tangled:….
December 15th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
you can see how the leash is streched, thats crystal clear! But take it as the great sportsman you both are, he’ll never get that far…
December 15th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Looked to me like Damian was hassling Dingo pretty hard all heat. All over him like a rash.. Aussies like to get a bit physical just like kiwis. Dingo has a mix of both…
December 15th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Priority my ass. Paddle harder Dingo and you might have had a chance to force a legit interference.
So stoked at the Right Coast representation this winter, just wish Ceeeeejjjjjj got the Triple Crown.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
NO.. because after I look at the video it looks like dingo wouldn’t have been able to catch the wave?
@ nick c.
what would happen in the world cup if a player accidentally touches the ball with his hands inside the box. “..oops must have gotten tangled:….
or in football if a player accidentally runs into the kicker “..oops must have gotten tangled:….
MY ONLY EXPLANATION IS ” IT’S NOT CHEATING IF YOU DON’T GET CAUGHT.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
I hear ya.. That is what I thought watching it… Dingo clearly gets caught out of position, figures might as well snag it and see what happens.. works in his favor this time.
Didnt work out so well for him in the next round though.. At least the French soccer player admited being wrong, even though the judges did not change that call either
December 15th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Back off Burkhart!
Life imitating art…
December 15th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
@nick c right on!
We all love surfing and competing it just makes ASP look bad and doesn’t legitimize the sport, thats the only point trying to be made.
December 15th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Either Damo saw a massive Lobster and couldn’t resist or that was the best leash pull since Lance Burkhart.
What an anticlimactic ending to a great Triple crown. An air won the Pipe Masters??? Same ending in ‘07. No one will remember in a few years because it was 3′ slop.. All the goofies that remained went down in small backdoor. Was the forecast that bad or did they just want to end the Pipe Masters earlier in the waiting period because the remaining surfers wanted to go home for the holidays?
December 15th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
God´s is the true judge…you and Damien are the best surfers in the world man…and it´s not fair…I see all the heat and it´s seems so strange Damo fall in that wave…but Dean in this way will never get so far…Come on..
December 15th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
He knew he was too far away to make the wave so there was no way to legitimately get an interference call. He was going to lose the heat on that last one so he pulled Damo off his board. Totally cheated–totally lame.
December 15th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Sorry guys, but it is WAY worst than it looks. It was Dingo’s second incident in this year’s triple crown. In Haleiwa, in his heat on the round of 32, he pulled the same tactics against the brazilian Andre Silva, who complaint publicly for the brazilian press. In that case, Dingo was in the last place on the heat and pulled the rash guard and the leash of the brazilian several times to help Parko and Kai Otton . Since nothing happened, he did it again in Pipe and guess what? Nothing happened again…
Dingo sucks!!!
December 15th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
BURKHART YOU BASTAAAAARRRD!!!!!!!!! had to say it.
December 15th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
@Daniel Neris Wow I didn’t know that…
We’ll if the sport wants to grow it will need to police stuff like this and being that the Surfers own part of there tour it will be up to us.
hey i’m trying to do my part
December 15th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Dingo showed his true colors…Damo you are the man and I can’t believe it went down like that. Good work Ceej for posting this for sure. BTW, congrat’s to Taj! He was so stoked, fun to watch him so genuinely happy. Have fun tonight, boys.
December 15th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
thats why kelly wants to creat his own tour … judges are fucking blind… its was so clear… this is not a clean game… dingo must have shown some respect for his tour mate … one thing is: if he was able to do the wave ok … but by his fault he was far outside and was never doing the drop … wtf, dingo made a mistake and tryed to fix it, cheating damo ….
December 15th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Has Dean said anything about this in the press yet?
December 15th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Great effort CJ. Keep doing it.
The link for the article in Portuguese about the incident in Haleiwa is: http://waves.terra.com.br/surf/noticia/competicao/wqs/reef-hawaiian-pro/2009/andre-na-bronca-com-morrison/39261
If you need I can translate it for you.
December 15th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
you gotta respect dingo’s firm grip though…damo deserved it for sure… plus where was he when you were surfing the outer reefs the day of the eddie?
December 15th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
The thing everyone is missing is that the goods are done and really have been for a couple of years. see any photos of them in the mags lately or anyone giving them any love in videos? we’ll see where they and Globe go from here but i am betting more whining is in there future
December 15th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
And Dingo gets the cheater player award 09
December 15th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
@ohboy you must have missed CJ’s cover shot a month ago on transworld surf… you clown. the fact that you are looking at their blog shows that they are getting exposure, and last I checked, finishihg top 10 in the world is not a great indication of someone’s career being “done”. take your hate elsewhere.
p.s. i love dingo, but it sucks that he would pull b.s. like that. from campaign 2 “don’t surf with dingo. i repeat, don’t surf with the dingo. he will snake you.”
December 15th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
I’d give him the benefit of the doubt. Granted it IS possible that he could have legitimately pulled the leash by accident, they were both paddling pretty hard and very close. BUT you’d actually have to grip it somewhere in your arm or hand, no such thing as “tangle” with leash by arm. I mean, if dingo’s arm is in the loop of the leash, it still wouldn’t have pulled like that, it would eventually slip off, that’s just my opinion in the water. leash had to be grabbed to be pulled like that so taunt, unless dingo’s arm is eternally crooked or “hooked” 45 degrees like a boomerang.
@oh boy, we’re discussing a legitimate concern here you come in a bash people’s character. who the hell are you?? LOL the goods aint done, follow the ratings, they perform more consistently than other overhypped and over sponsored atheletes.
I think the judges are afraid to accuse anyone of such hideous actions or refuse to believe it. It’s not that they are biased or favor anyone but it’s just the nature that people would prefer to perceive others in a non confrontational way, especially if it’s ambiguous like today.
December 15th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
@drago
your psycho despite cjs cover shot which was driven by soon to be bankrupt globe
look at the big picture. these guys are short, balding twins and they are done. They are not kelly, dorian or even taylor and that is pathetic. aloha.
oh boy
December 15th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
@oh boy, LOL you are the one that sounds pathetic right now ROFL arguing with logical fallacies by attacking the person rather than evidence. the ignorance hahahaha
December 15th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
..and Deano did it again and he’ll be doing this more and more…
As Daniel said above this is the second time he bukharted someone only in this hawaiian season.
First it was André Silva, now damo.
This is the interview of André talking about his case.
“I’m disgusted with the attitude of Dean Morrison! It is unacceptable that happens that kind of thing in a competition of this level, I could have missed, the wave closed, etc.. But an unsportsmanlike attitude that level has no justification,” complains Andre.
“We battle the whole year traveling the world to run the league and losing is normal, but dirty game I do not admit it. I am angry and said that for him in the water! Do not want to change the results, just need to vent, because I owe it to Brazilians that cheer for me, my family, friends and sponsors, “terminating the Brazilian.
December 15th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
The goods are nowhere near being done! they are phenomenal surfers!! Still my favourite surfers to watch at real barreling surf spots like chopes and cloudbreak!
Take your hating somewhere else, these guys are some of the nicest surfers out there and are a great example for groms to follow. We need more surfers like the hobgoods
Cheers from Canada!
December 15th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Dingo is just a dirty dog!!
December 15th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Damo is a man. He did enough to maintain his composure. I would have had a hard time not smacking Dino lights out had I been in Damo’s place. Good job for the hard fought battle and the evidence that you are of good class and character.
December 15th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Looks like Gerry Lopez should have been the Water Patrol Judge instead of on the beach! I watched the heat and stopped watching when I saw that. Good job Damo for keeping your cool. Such a world class sportsman, I would probably have lost it in the heat of the moment.
December 15th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
@ “ohboy” (the nameless coward)…keep telling yourself that before you draw them in your heat. Next time you want to attack someone personally on a website, man up and sign your name.
December 15th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
@oh boy
the goods are done… haha. ceejs section in stranger than fiction solidified him as one of my favorite surfers. its my favorite section easily cause he just hucks himself off anything dropping in switch and stomping sketched out landings. not to mention hes farking top ten you knob. their style is soo fun to watch. theyve got life in them yet. and theyre really consistent competitively.
December 15th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
This ones for oh boy and all the other overly critical commentators out there. I have to say Damien and CJ are two of the most genuine and sincere people I know and for them to be victim to this madness is really wrong. All the hype in this nearly corrupted surf industry creates harsh judgements towards the athletes who hold the foundation of the sport. So as for Dingo and Damo, I wasn’t in the water and so I won’t judge. Just remember were you stand, and making any harsh remarks towards the esthetics of either of them is pretty low.
December 15th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
what happened to gentlemans hour?? haha
December 15th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
it could go either way,damien paddle under dingo and he had priority
December 15th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
I don’t think the outcome of the heat would’ve changed even if Dingo hadn’t interfered with Damo’s chance at the wave. It looks as though the wave didn’t offer much scoring potential after that first section. It sucks that the whole thing went down the way it did, but that’s surfing. Try to remember all the hassles and paddle battles that you’ve gone through to catch a wave. I think we are all guilty of something along the lines of what Dingo did or didn’t do, wether it be sneaking a good one out from a friend or dropping in on someone not skilled enough to surf the wave in question, I know I am.
December 16th, 2009 at 12:17 am
Looked like he pulled the leash on purpose. But I would want to talk to Dean Morrison to see what he says– Just ask, it’s easy to see if a guy is lying.
December 16th, 2009 at 12:32 am
Picture this: if the roles were reversed, the ENTIRE Aussie contigent would have bum-rushed the judges tent. I can see it now, Jay Thompson holding Perry Hatchett in a headlock, while Parko, Mick, Kai, Taj, Adrian and the rest of the Aussies beat him like he’s Rodney King. LOL!
December 16th, 2009 at 12:34 am
I’d bet a nice wad of cash that “Oh Boy” is Dingo. ;-/
kook.
December 16th, 2009 at 4:17 am
did that dingo take your baby?
December 16th, 2009 at 4:26 am
Get a grip. He may have done it on purpose…or it might be an accident. The judges clearly thought it was an accident. It didn’t even affect the result!
December 16th, 2009 at 5:16 am
racist cnuts
December 16th, 2009 at 5:42 am
The issue has nothing to do with intentional or unintentional leash pull. The judges job was to make a call “was their interference from either surfer on the last wave?”. They never addressed the real issue.It is not up to them to analyze the “intentions” of the athlete.They are suppose to make the call by what they see.
The sport will never improve if judges are going to allow “intentions” by the athletes to rule their calls. Other sports do not allow it.
December 16th, 2009 at 5:50 am
Some time has gone by…Any word from Dingo? Has he made any effort to contact Damo??
@Damo…you are a better man than I…
@Ohboy….Kelly is short and bald…..haha
December 16th, 2009 at 6:40 am
Thanks CJ for having the corrones and uploading the evidence.
…One of these days this australian will do this in Chopo or maybe when it’s 10feet backdoor… and then it’ll be too late for the ASP to do something.
For the record…Andre Silva was not the only Brazillian who fell victim of that guy. People are angry here.
CJ good luck in 2010!
December 16th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Damo – sorry bro.
CJ – congrats on a stellar year.
December 16th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Aloha C.J. and Damo
Congrats on another brilliant season,
Damien great to have you back in the top 10
(into 9th from 22nd)
You are the Most Improved Surfer statisticlly,
Damo and Jordy are both 13 spots better than last seasons finish…. Jordy 11th from 24th.
And Ceej started 2009 in 5th and is now 7th,
funny thing is Ceej went into Pipe in 4th position
and dropped to 7th after finishing 5th @ Pipeline, Your too consistent mate,
Throwing away 1200 point for the season is way too much… I aht to say it but sometimes I wish you would exist early. But still win…
Ceej is the only surfer to go 9th or better for the whole season.
Ceej’s average event result for 2009 was 6.20,
World Champion Mick Fanning 6.0 ..
R/U Joel Parkinson 8.60 ..
No’ 5 – Adriano 10.80ave …
You guys did it again…
Almost identical stats for the season;
Both had 61% win ratios …
Ceej ave score was 12.95, and Damo’s 12.98.
Ceej surfed in 6 final series with 8 finals heats,
Damien surfed 4 final series with 6 heats …
Careers at the end of 2009…
C.J; 2001 World Champion ..
112 events .. 359 heats .. 198 wins .. 55%w/r ..
(57 finals) 33 quarters .. 17 semis .. 7 finals for 4 wins.
Damien; 2005 Number 4 ..
98 Events .. 316 heats .. 166 wins .. 53%w/r ..
(53 finals) 29 quarters .. 14 semis .. 10 finals for 4 wins.
Pretty identical after doing the maths for the difference in events surfed…
Spooky, how many Hobgoods are there anyway?
Thanks to you guys for letting me write my stuff on your site this season, I am always having a look at you site, you have some colourful charactors in your bloggs.
Aloha have a great Christmas and hope your readers didn’t mind my little rambles from time to time about the number that the World Best Surfers lay down for us to witness.
It a good era…
Aloha
Mike @ RAS stats.
One final thing;
If you like soccer, you might like the soccer game I have on my website…
December 16th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Very tough call. Could have gone easily the other way. Dingo had priority and was paddling for the wave and Damo interfered with Dingo’s ability to catch the wave. Just b/c I say this doesn’t mean I’m not rooting for the Goods brothers. I want them to win every heat. Hey – I’m from Sat Beach too and surfed with those grommies growing up.
Let us not forget: BOTH CJ and Damo finished in the Top 10 this year. That hasn’t happened since 2005. STOKED!
December 16th, 2009 at 7:43 am
I think “M” is spot on. It could very well been unintentional. Though I’ve never been a contest competitor to speak of the little hassleing contests you get into with your surf buddies trying to jap the good waves from each other can produce a result like that. It’s probably happened to all of us who participate in free surf sesh’s with your buds. I’ve snagged my hand and arm in somebody’s leash and had it done to me. No harm no foul in that context, but in one of the most (if not THE most) prestigious contest, the infraction MUST be punished with intent considered when doleing out the punishment. I was a soccer referee for years, if the foul was in my judgement unintentional, I’d just whistle the foul, if I thought it was intentional or reckless, along with a yellow or red card. Just my 2 cents.
December 16th, 2009 at 7:51 am
dean made it with brazilian Andre Silva in the triple crown
December 16th, 2009 at 8:53 am
It would be interesting to find out if any of the photographers in the water managed to take a picture of “Dingogate” as it was occurring (Not sure if they’re were any there to begin with).
December 16th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Shame, that was a low move. ASP need to investigate if something like this happens. 90,000 on the line, there is no excuse. Leashes can get tangled, but no way a leash would pull like that unless you had it firmly gripped in your hand. Dean had priority but couldn’t get in the wave. Obviously he didn’t want Damo to either. ASP judges blew it. Dean cheated.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Hi, 1st off I love the goods, but heres my take:
Deano has priority, so really damo can’t paddle battle him? he goes for a wave (dean) which he could have caught, but damo is kinda blocking him, at the last minute in frustration dean grabs damiens leash underwater.
@Damo, what happened when you paddled back out? Did dean say anything? Did you?
December 16th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Wether or not the leash pull was intentional doesn’t matter. After Dingo missed the wave, thus losing priority Damo’s leah was pulled while getting to his feet. This action csaused him to fall on his wave and lose any chance of getting the score he needed. All this was clear to see on the video which the head judge had access to review. make your own assumptions from there. Sorry Damo ’bout that one, but great surfing as always.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:11 am
@oh boy: Dude, so what then…Dingo’s the next member of Modern Collective??? Kai’s calling him up right now huh? “You’re on the cutting edge mate!” The Dingo newest member of MC hahahahahah!!
December 16th, 2009 at 10:50 am
HOBGOODS = WORST SURFERS ON TOUR.
DEAN SHREDS EM BOTH BY MILES
December 16th, 2009 at 10:56 am
the webcast call
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckBAmf73zfA
December 16th, 2009 at 10:58 am
any respect i had for dingo is now gone. Even if damien was blocking him from the wave, that was a tactical move and it seems to have worked and dingo realizing this got pissed and grabbed his leash. thats total bull. this is a professional sport and if you want people to look at it legitimately then the head judges shouldnt be afraid to call someone out on cheating
December 16th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Hey blokes a contest is a contest. Its about winning and that’s what I did, win. We’re all happy to be on tour making money doing what we love. Cheers Damo let’s have a cold one after the Snapper contest with the boys next season mate! I’m riding the birdie home Friday.
December 16th, 2009 at 11:10 am
I saw it real time on the webcast and then watched the clip on this page repeatedly. Do I think that Dean Morrison is the kind of person that would do this? I don’t know him, you two do. My impression is that he’s a scrappy Goldy kid who had Rabbit as his legal guardian and mentor growing up so it’s certainly possible. But for what it’s worth, and I have no emotion attachment to it either way, my honest opinion is that he didn’t grab the leash intentionally. Regardless, Morrison had priority and Damien was pushing it, they both were hassling all heat long. Damien paddled for a wave that the surfer with priority was paddling for. That’s an interference. So the question is was it a double interference. I would’ve have checked for marks on Morrison’s arm because if you’ve ever gotten hung up in someone’s leash like that, and I have, it leaves a red mark. If he grabbed it, there’d be no mark. He said in the interview afterward that he didn’t pull the leash. He’s either a man of his word or he’s not. You and the other surfers on the tour would know best.
But CJ and Damo, the judging has been suss all year on the ASP. The surfers seriously need to get that sorted out. I don’t expect them to be perfect, just professional. It’s not there.
PS – Reportedly Bob Slater called you two the ‘best tuberiders in the world’. Considering forehand and backhand into the equation, it would be difficult to argue against him and that’s quite a compliment.
December 16th, 2009 at 11:13 am
And if that’s really Dingo who commented above then it sounds like he did it to me.
December 16th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Dude! Most of it’s been said already, but I enjoy the analytical side of things and looked this incident over and over again last night….
Although I was undoubtedly rooting for Damo so my opinion might seem a little skewed, but the fact that dingos one arm is windmilling and his other is pulling back seems quite questionable, on top of the fact he wasn’t getting into the wave with that line and also proceeded to be very worried at the end of the heat. It shouldn’t have mattered that dingo had priority…Damo often takes heats during the dying seconds which makes him that much more exciting to watch..
I hope the ASP improves their ways..
…and to add: I’m super stoked for CJ’s consistency (zero 17ths this year) and Damo’s back in the top ten!
Loved CJ’s TEN best wave of the comp.
December 16th, 2009 at 11:25 am
If it was legitimate interference, then there would be no need to pull his leash, the call would be made. IMHO
December 16th, 2009 at 11:37 am
@ Mike @ RAS surfing stats
nice work great info, pretty creepy hey? i’ve always looked at other identical twins as kinda creepy and with this info, we’ll I can’t even hang with my bro anymore.
Merry Christmas and HNY seeyas in aus
c
December 16th, 2009 at 11:40 am
You could argue that “leash tugging” is allowed, if done with priority?
The problem is deano did what he needed to do, (it was ultimately left to the judges) its unfair for damien, you only needed a 3.83 & would have gotten that score.
December 16th, 2009 at 11:46 am
U.G. is completely correct. If you watch the higher quality video on surfline (link below), you can tell that he’s only paddling with 1 arm. Unintentional, give me a farking break. My question is that if it was ruled as intentional, then what would be the penalty???? anyone know??? perhaps one of dingay’s scores would be cut in half?? If anyone knows, let it be known.
http://www.surfline.com/wct-contest-zone/taj-burrow-wins-billabong-pipeline-masters–aussie-beats-slater-in-final_39441/1/
December 16th, 2009 at 11:49 am
“If you’re not cheating your not trying hard enough.”
Congrats to both of the Goods. Top 10 for each and three Floridians in the top 10.
December 16th, 2009 at 11:52 am
@ bill clifton…Dingay didn’t “need” to do that. It was a last ditch effort that probably wasn’t even necessary. the wave looked like a closeout. He made himself look like a scumbag. His bs interview with GT following the heat showed that he was desperate to let everyone know that “I was just paddling and my arm got tangled…blah blah blah.. i don’t know what the judges are gonna say…blah blah blah..” Dingay should just man up and admitt it.
December 16th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
After you go to the link I posted above(11:46) you have to go to the 20th slide to watch the vid. I suggest checking it. They super slow mo it.
December 16th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
If we add up all the waves in all the frothing full pack crowds all the people who have commented on this vid have caught we won’t find one, “Oh I got totally tangled and couldn’t let go”. I’ve bee surfing for 34 years, If you feel a leash you stop paddling and its gone (Unless its Newport, then its leverage)
December 16th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
@jeff, yea I agree he should’t have grabbed damiens leash, but then should damien be paddeling when dingo is clearly “going” & has prioity?
December 16th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
@Bill clifton> um, that’s a good point man. I don’t know where the line is. paddling around, under, or over seems to occur frequently but leash pulling is on a different level. Dingay would have dropped in if he could’ve caught the wave, but did Damo block him? I’m not sure about blocking as interference. It’s interesting non the less.
December 16th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
i don’t think dingo pulled the leash intentionally. i’ve done it before by mistake and i’ve had it done to me by mistake. i’d bet you dingo never even saw damo’s leash. however, i was bummed. i wanted a hobgood to get the title!
December 16th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Damien would know by how hard his leg was tugged whether it was intentional. If it was a mistake it was still dangerous. The judges should have been men and made the DQ call if nothing else than just to remove the huge liability they’d have if Damien had been inured. Not a big fan of the judges or Dingo right now. Bravo to ceej for not folding on this one.
December 16th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
The Pipe contest had it all this year.
1. Liam McNamara posts a .33 in his heat.
Now a .33 would make a great DUI score, but a heat in The Pipe Masters?
2. Joel Parkinson performs the biggest choke in surfing history. And to top it off, goes ass over teakettle on his very last wave.
At least he went out in style…. Wiped out with his pipe out.
3. Dingo dogs it. Absolutely caught red handed pulling Damo’s leach.
Morrision is now collared with that gayish label,… a leash puller.
Woof woof, dingo. Woof woof.
December 16th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Watched the link on Barfline as reccommened by the other comments. Jury’s back and Dingo’s appears to be a guilty bastard.
December 16th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
u guys need to realize that just cuz dingo had priority that doesnt mean damien isnt aloud to paddle for the wave. he is most certainty aloud to paddle for it and when dingo missed the wave priority immediately switches to damien and that makes it his wave. so regardless if it accidental or not he still interfered with damien on the wave.
December 16th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
I saw Damo interviewed in Australia early this year and he appears to be a very humble and gracious bloke. By not commenting on this grubby incident he has shown great sportsmanship. That said I would have been pissed if my brother posted this after I had asked him not to.
Great show of character Damo. Gone up a notch in my book.
December 16th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Volcom must be so proud of you Dingo !!!!
December 16th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Have a beer after Snapper next year. Maybe Dean is available after Round 2. Again.
If he pulled the cord it was because ‘Bong told him how he was getting paid. They didn’t tell him this is how he will be remembered in most of the world.
December 16th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
I CAN ONLY HOPE PERRY HATCHETT (ASP HEAD JUDGE) IS READING THIS AND GIVES US ALL HIS EXPLANATION?????
PLEASE PEZZ
December 16th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Good point, Trav! Priority doesn’t mean he owns the ocean. I was in Target yesterday with my daughter. She likes to hang on to the front of the shopping cart while I push it. I stopped suddenly and she flew forward and almost took out a whole aisle of vaccuums. She was NOT cool with it even though I told her it wasn’t intentional.
December 16th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
link to entire 50min heat plus post heat view with dean
http://www.filedropper.com/deanvdamien
December 16th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
we saw you Burkhart…. you pulled his leash!!!!!!!
December 16th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
[...] If you want, read more about this shit go here: http://www.blog.thegoodss.com/hobgoods-253/ [...]
December 16th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
I can not believe that the judges did not DQ Dingo. Great job keeping you cool. Dingo is a door knob.
December 16th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
dingo is an asshole… made the same thing with Andre Silva at Sunset. the most frustrated cooly kid. maybe that’s why.
December 16th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
ASP will sweep this under the rug. I had Damo on my team. FS owes me more points, bastards!
December 16th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
If there was no hair-pulling & Damien had of made that wave & got the score, would there be a priority interference?
Can Terry explain the rules/angles?
@justan observer, thanks for that vid!
December 16th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
I thought it was preety obvious he grabbed his leash. I believe that the surfers should handle this individually if the judges wont. I mean Sunny chased Neco across the beach for taking off on the same wave.. Damo and Ceej, you guys are too nice, Dingo is a midget and a someone needed to land a quick one on his jaw. If that happened during a freesurf at pipe against a Kala or wolfpack guy, there woulod have been blood. WOuld Dean have pulled that shit on SUnny, ANdy, Makua, or even mick cambell? I lvoe Dean morrisons surfing, and @oh boy, Dingo’s won how many contests on tour, 1, and the goods have won numerous in real waves that arnt the break they;ve grown up at…
December 16th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
I am happy to see that Dingo won the heat and a Hobgood surfer got bumped. The Hobgoods are the most boring surfers to watch. Dingo blows them away twice over.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Damo was being a jerk hasselling all heat. That’s why you have priority, sitting on him all heat like that, that is a dog act.
Suck eggs, good on you Dingo.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
@ Shakabra
most boring surfers to watch? yah I hate seeing cj and damo take off the latest in the biggest barrel, pull off the sickest maneuvers in the dying seconds, have 10 foot fly-aways and land one footed aerials and ride away in the tube….SUPER BORING… but what’s super fun is watching a stiff barrel rider do the same thing over and over again.
Sorry that’s just not needed… they rip and are so spontaneous, it’s awesome to watch!
December 16th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
That sucks. Dingo looks like a duchebag and the asp looks incompetent. At the very least this should be a double interference. I never thought much of Dingo or his surfing but now I will be hoping he looses. Can someone from the ASP clarify how the fuck leash pulling is ever ok? I mean seriously if I have priority can I just punch the guy hasseling me? That would be easier and hell he’d be out the whole heat with an interpherance for getting in my priority ass way. Fuck dingo! He should apologize.
December 16th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Damo may have interfered himself. But having sayed that, there is no doubt that Dingo interfered with Damo whether it was intentional or not. The judges pussed out.
December 16th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Damo did you have priority ? Intentionally or not you interfered trying to snake a wave. The Dingo with priority couldn’t get past you and ended up tangled/grabbing your leash, kinda proving how close you put yourself, IN THE WAY! Doesn’t matter about your fall from the leash snag cause you were in the wrong! Tanks for the drama!
December 16th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
ps.. doesn’t look like he could have ever gotten into it.. how is that snaking JF? How bout not letting a wave go unridden…
December 16th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
He clearly pulled the leash, the only question is: was it intentional?
Did Dingo make any attempt at an apology? If not, then he probably did it on purpose.
Whether or not it was interference, makes no difference at this point.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
@jf
there was clearly enough room for dingo to take off on that wave…only problem was he didn’t get into the wave. if he would have actually gotten teh wave this wouldn’t matter because just by standing up damo would have been interfering..but dingo missed the wave so he grabbed the leash…plus do you honestly think that since dingo’s willing to pull leashes he’s not willing to take off sort of somewhat close to somebody during a contest?
December 16th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
I personally was rooting for Damo and was irate when dingo pulled his leash. I sensed a chip on dingos shoulder the whole comp too. One other thing, Kelly has def been underscored this year and specifically at pipe. I’m stoked for taj, and he won in the final no doubt, but Kelly is getting slightly underscored- maybe the powers that be have shifted a bit?
December 16th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Lets give Dingo a tug everytime he is paddling for a wave this year. Everyone, everywhere, tug a dingo. Should drive him lolo for a while.
Oops. Sorry brah my bad. Your leash wen tangle my arm…
Bugga didn’t even apolgize & ASP has no balls.
December 17th, 2009 at 2:49 am
1. Innocent until proven guilty (We have no idea)
2. Paddling into a wave close enough to a surfer with priority for a leash incident to happen
3. This slander is equally unsportsmanlike
December 17th, 2009 at 5:19 am
The way I see it Dingo had priority and Damo cut him of by blocking his entry into the wave.
Dingo my have possibly made the wave but once Damo got underneath him he and blocked him his momentum was impeded.
I don’t know if the leash pull was intentional or not but it dosn’t really come into it as Damo made the first foul.
On the Stab website they say the judges were split. One called interference on Damo, One called interference on Dingo, and one couldn’t make up his mind.
So it was definitely a close call and could have gone either way
However I would like to commend Damo on how he has handled the situation. We know he’s pissed off and could’ve been on this website spouting all kinds of crap but he has taken it on the chin like a man and a professional so good on you Damo!
December 17th, 2009 at 5:41 am
@ Chris Williams. Regarding Kelly being underscored at pipe this year.
Are you kidding?
Kelly got the overall highest heat scores for each and every one of the 4 rounds he competed in leading up to the final.
Hardly the result you’d expect for someone that was “underscored”
December 17th, 2009 at 6:20 am
accident my ass. nuff said.
December 17th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Yeah, someone sad it all, DINGO IS THE MOST FRUSTATED COLLY KID, thats why he made it to Damien (in pipe) and Andre Silva (in sunset). If the surf wants to be a great recognize sport ASP SHOULD OPEN YOU EYES!
DINGO WON THE MODAFUCKIN´ AWARD OF THE YEAR!
December 17th, 2009 at 8:08 am
This mostly to dingo as I know he will read it eventually.
The fact that you actually stated You are there to win is such crap.. So it is fine for you to do that. It is then also fine to bite someone’s ear off, or break his arm or tackle him dangerously or what ever.. Putting someone at risk by doing something like what you did “as a professional sportsman” not only puts you in the wrong but it sure as hell shows your attitude to the “SPORT” that we (your fans) love.
I’m sure you have and will loose a lot of fans in this. CONGRATS AT YOUR WINNING SUICIDE! You definitely have lost at least 5 fans just from around my desk.
Congrats Ceej and Damo.. Seeing how you play the game and keeping your wits about you is always nice to watch. Keep it up and I’ll be rooting for you!
December 17th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Congrats to Ceej and Damo….. You guys have made this site a great place for fantasy geeks and followers of the sport alike to come to for inside info. Great finish for both of you guys on the year. My 2cents on the call. From what i understand the only reason that it could have been called on Damo is if he (Dingo) was on a catchable wave. He had no chance of catching that wave. If you look at his post heat interview you can tell he knew he did something wrong. He had no confidence in the fact that he was in the right and Damo was in the wrong. Tactics are tactics but that was just a cheap trick, one he has had a history of using before. Karma is a biatch and it will catch up with him. I never been a huge fan of his surfing although i think he is a great backdoor surfer but crap like that makes people who really follow and love the sport realize who are the guys who succeed with class and who are the ones with no class. Sucks to be a classless Dingo. Have a great off season and maybe see you at the inlet CJ.
RydrHi
December 17th, 2009 at 8:29 am
The Goods rip still and will until they are of the Slater age, it must be a florida thing, lots of sunshine or something, and oranges?
CJ’s part was impressive in STF, no others out there that surf like the Goods which is why they will be around for much longer. Yewww!!!
December 17th, 2009 at 8:58 am
if it’s any conciliation….The asp has come a long way in may the better surfer win. Damien Hardman won a world title by pretending to duck dive a wave then letting it suck him over the falls so he could stand up in the whitewash with priority and the surfer riding way down the line would be deemed an interference….anyways sorry Damo you got the raw end of the deal and the asp still has a few things to work on.
December 17th, 2009 at 9:05 am
If Damien was blocking him Dean should have paddled straight into him to get the call. One judge called it on Damien, one on Dean. Without a leash pull it sounds like a paddling interference is called on Damien.
Anyway Dean’s a known burn artist and the Hobgoods are famed for their lineup etiquette – spent enough of the mid/late 90s @ SI/MH to experience it myself. Lots of these pros would burn us all for a chance at a flyaway photo – utmost respect to two we know won’t. Go Goods in ‘10.
December 17th, 2009 at 9:06 am
You guys are fags.
December 17th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Gee Josh, after last weekend I thought we were both fags? I’m hurt. You’re as callous as a dingo. Don’t bother calling me again.
December 17th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Was the leash intentionally pulled? Yes
Was Damo arguably interfering with Dingo’s line and ability to catch the wave? Yes
WERE BOTH SURFERS IN THE WRONG? YES
In my opinion, Damo should have not even paddled for that wave. Damo essentially put Dingo in the position of HAVING to pull the leash to ensure that either the paddling interference was called or he won the heat. There was no other strategic option. It’s like in the NBA when a player swats the ball well after the foul so that there is absolutely no chance of the “and 1″.
Come on ‘Goods….can you see it from this perspective? You’re smart guys.
December 17th, 2009 at 10:21 am
everybody who thinks damo shouldnt have paddled for that wave needs to understand there is nothing in the asp rule book that says if one surfer has priority then the other surfer cant paddle for the wave. damo could have easily been called for a paddling interference and dingo needed to leave that up to the judges to make that call but blatantly pulling a leash to win the heat is unacceptable in pro surfing. there needed to be an interference call made whether it be damo on dingo or dingo on damo or they could have easily called a double interference.
BOTTOM LINE IS THE JUDGES NEED TO GROW SOME BALLS AND WHEN A SITUATION LIKE THAT OCCURS MAKE A CALL.
December 17th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Congrats Damo and Ceej top 10. Huge Effort!
The Leash Pull. Firstly I am unbiased to both these surfers and will try and break it down with out taking sides.
Dingo had Priority, which means if he can take any wave he wants even if Damo was already on it. However Damo is still aloud to paddle for any wave he wants as long as it doesn’t interfere with the other surfer.
In this case, Dingo paddled towards the wave with a lower chance of catching the wave….he needed to catch the wave to keep Damo of it. If Dingo caught the wave then it would be his wave and if Damo caught it as well then he would get interference.
Now, Damo did paddle for the wave from under Dingo, they were a little to eachothers side, but Damo was in front and had a lot of wash coming of him as he paddled….this could have resulted in Dingo not been able to catch the wave and thus would be an interference on Damo.
However, Dingo got caught onto Damo’s Leash….whether intentional or unintentional….this is an interference.
This would then mean a double interference call would be made…..in that case, each surfer would lose half of their lower scoring wave.
Dingo had a 6.33 and a 4.67, he would then lose half of that 4.67 which would give him a total of: 8.67
Damo had a 7.17 and a 3.00, he would then lose half of that 3.00 which would give him a total of: 8.67
So then they are tied….it would then go to a count back…which is who has the next highest scoring wave
Damo’s next highest scoring wave was a 2.63.
Dingo’s next highest scoring wave was a 2.00.
Therefore Damo wins the heat and progresses through to the semi.
I hope that all made sense….but that is what could have happened, but the judges are worked pretty hard and have to make quick decisions, this stuff took me 15mins to do, they don’t have 15mins the have more like 15secs….so that is why sometimes these calls get made and people get all bummed out. But it happens in every sport and is all part of the game.
Truth be known….if you pull someone’s leggie, intentionally or unintentionally you should be made to paddle out naked and have your leggie pulled on set of the day! Then where a t-shirt out the front of the local surf shop disclosing your surf debauchery on Christmas Eve the busiest time of year for your surf shop!
December 17th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Tim, I thought you were into hockey?!
December 17th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Complete bullshit — the ASP should have disqualified Dingo on the spot. To me it’s pretty clear Dingo pulled Damo’s leash. During the Haleiwa event, Dingo pulled the shirt of a Brazilian competitor on two separate waves during final moments of the heat. See the news link (in portuguese):
http://waves.terra.com.br/surf/noticia/competicao/wqs/reef-hawaiian-pro/2009/andre-na-bronca-com-morrison/39261
Given the precedent, I doubt the incident with Damo was accidental.
The Brazilian called
December 17th, 2009 at 11:30 am
(continuing)
The Brazilian competitor called Dingo’s attitude in the water “dirty play” and “unprofessional”.
December 17th, 2009 at 11:45 am
@In The Know
The count back goes to the surfer with the highest wave in the heat which would have been damo with a 7.17. the only reason they would go to the next highest score was if they both tied on there highest wave score.
December 17th, 2009 at 11:51 am
even better for damo then.
December 17th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Cheers Trav
December 17th, 2009 at 11:53 am
PS – So CJ, now that this whole drama has been started, what are you and or your brother going to do about it? Good luck whatever your decision is.
December 17th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
I’m so sick of KKKristians, Hobgoblins, blaming god for victory/da devil for loss! What the ha, scores for Herwaiians were at least 2 above all ,and MacNamarra, well,baby showing up at Ruggles during best Hurricane swell of decade with your SUP, grabbing all the set waves, then you got pounded at the bay and Pipe- karma’s a bitch! Dingo, wild dog man, atheists, awwwoooooooooooo! ps- now that Tiger’s been outed for roids’, how about drug testin the boiz’ ; they grew awful big, awful fast!
December 17th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Hassling is part of this ’sport’ that used to be an ‘art’, but, as the last commentor stated (who’ll soon burn in Armageddon), the introduction of energy-performing drinks as contest sponsors? (caffeine, guanine, sterazine, meth?) and injections takes all bets off the table.Drug testing should be mandatory. Both surfers were aggro, but that’s what calvinism (dominion over natural world) and capitalism ($90,000) create and has nothing to do with one’s own path to enlightenment! How about a tour with shear expression sessions? Floaters/aerials in knee-deep water promise a lifetime as a hobbled adult and possible poor parent, so keep the carves, barrel rides, toes-on -the-nose, classy, glassy! ps- thanx for open forum, D and CJ!
December 17th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Sunny’s whining and technicolor grab of his (NO) jersey from Rarick because he’s (still) not responsible enough to get to his heat puts the competitive ‘edging’ of Dingo to shame! I will save my money and go climb the last glaciers that are being melted by all the hot air that comes from ‘the sport of kings’?
December 17th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
If the finals are not held in small crap this does not happen? Bad call! Much respect to Dean and Damien chargers!
December 17th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
WOW i was just trying to find the bottom of the page 130 comments and counting thats heavy lot of people fire up on this toipc if he did pull the leash then thats pretty bad sports man ship how ever Dean did have priority so thats how its going to end and you can debate it to death but its donw they are not going to re do the comp now.
I Think we should be more shocked that Taj was sticking Airs in a Comp i mean the guys a Air freak but i have seen countless times hes blowen them in a comp so go TB for sorting that out! shame it was a slightly more consistan heat surf wise was pertty one sided and how under scored was Slater on that barrel i mean wtf.
now lets all move on let Damo get on with it i’m sure hes greatfull for the support and every thing but i’m guessing he wants to forget about it now peace seasons greatings boys hope you have a great Xmas with the Family
see yas next year
Andy
December 17th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
“MY ONLY EXPLANATION IS ” IT’S NOT CHEATING IF YOU DON’T GET CAUGHT.”
December 17th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
So, where’s the link with dingo after heat interview?
December 17th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
All you people saying why didnt Dingo just take off and get an interferance its cause Damo paddled right under him. If youve ever surfed a full on crowded session youll no its pretty hard to paddle for a wave when theres some one right in front of you. Its also a well known snake tactict so one could argu that Damo snaked Dingo.
Dingo with prority should have unconditional right of way. Sorry CJ your an amazing surfer and show why the top 10 are on a different level to the rest but your fucking stirring the pot here mate and Id expect Brodey Carr will be sending you a letter regarding bringing the ASp into dispute.
December 18th, 2009 at 1:13 am
Poor form CJ. Of coarse the majority of people are going to support your case on this site because most of them are your fans, not Dingos. You really are just making a big deal out of something that will happen once in a while because Damo is your brother and mate. Your pretty much making Dingo sound like a liar and a cheat and mate thats bullshit. If you really did respect him you wouldnt put this up on a public site and should have talk to Perry and the surfer reps first and not have posted this on here.
December 18th, 2009 at 7:44 am
@Davo I post my good work on this site, so feel free to copy and paste your comments over there also… http://www.stabmag.com/jed/serial-rakist-the-full-story-behind-the-2009-world-tours-most-controversial-moment-the-dean-morrison/
peace
December 18th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
I am a great fan of competitive surfing and this is one of the most ridiculous things I ever seem in professional surfing!
ASP –Association of Professional Surfers?
I guess all the surfers, judges, ASP staff, media must became 100% professional, because this kind of cheat is unacceptable in any sport these days!
Why only in surfing they still protecting some athletes from troubles?
He cheated and he must pay for this!
We are all surfers and we know that no one’s fall of the board like that without some help, especially one of the best surfers in the world like Damo!
Ask ASP to punish him as they did with Neco few years ago!
How many Sunny’s, Makuas, Dingo’s and Neco’s must appear to someone have an attitude?!
Put this Dingo (new version of Lance Burkhart) on a leash!
Let’s fight for a fare and respectful competitive environment!
Aloha
December 18th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
@Ricardo hear what your saying but your not looking at both sides Dean had prority and damo paddled under him to get the wave you could argue that dean wasn’t going to get the wave but no one will know if you watched the heat you would have seen that it was pretty hard fort heat from the get go.
To be slaging off the head judge is pretty harsh i mean it had to affect on the out come it was deans wave in the end and ok Damo may have got the score on it like dean said it was my wave.
December 18th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Why complain? It was an interference. So what if Dingo’s arm got ‘tangled’ up with ya leash. If you did not interfere, it would not have happened. The rules are the rules and the judges ruled accordingly.
Dingo rules!
December 18th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Come on, the waves were weak.. he was just going for some extra power for the take off!
No really, I think the call was only made cuz he had priority. I´m not trully sure about this, but if priority was with Damo and he had got the wave(no leash pulling) could Dingo get interference for the rassling?
And again, suppose the leash thing did not happen, and Damo (with no priority) makes the wave. Would he get interference?
cheers
December 19th, 2009 at 3:22 am
Crazy shit…
Damo and Dingo…Dingo and Damo… dudes…see the stroke of dingo to catch the wave…now be sincer… we pull the leash his left arm is in the water a long time…so in my opinion…that is a interference… And Prioraty is not avalable because he isn’t in the right place to catch the wave… if he catch it he would wipeout!
This wouldn’t happen if mister tiger shark whas there!!!
December 19th, 2009 at 7:44 am
this wouldn’t even be an issue if a CALL was made, i really wish they would of just called a paddling interferance on Damien.
just seems like such Pandoras Box since a call wasn’t made?..
forget the sport forget the names
a handball in soccer, is not a handball if it wasn’t intentional?… a hit below the belt in boxing is ok if it wasn’t intentional. imagine if the rest of the sporting world referees opperated that way.
SURFING SUCKS! I’m a free surfer now, i refuse to surf small waves and the WQS but i live in florida wait…
December 19th, 2009 at 9:24 am
It was obvious that Dean made it ON PURPOSE!
I was watching it live. At the time it seemed it wasn’t on purposed, but when I watched on surfline.com and then here on this blog I realized he made it on purpose.
You can see that he tried to grab Damien’s jersey and then grabbed his leash.
Dean had already done the same thing in a heat against the brazilian Andre Silva.
They cannot let this go unpunished!
In any other sport the “athlete” would be punished.
But the ASP is not a serious association. They let everything go.
They didn’t punished Sunny Garcia when he beated Neco Padaratz in the same event some yars ago. I thing they just made him pay a fee of $1.000 or something like that. He should be suspended.
My best wishes to the Hobgood’s. You’re trully professional surfers.
December 19th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Sooo…in the best conclusion we…have…is…
If you are competing in the CT don’t wear a leash… kick some asses… and slice some skulls with your fins!!! EASSSSYYYYY!!!!
That’s Life… It’s just Unfair!!!
“it sucks”… yeah…that was what she said!!! Next time kick him in the balls…our beat him in the mouth!!
December 19th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Yah I xpresd miself wrong. The judges did not make a call. I agree that calling
an interference on Damian would be best. It would give priority its respect! or is that something
they trying to sell?? Paddling on someone´s else wave is OK.. lineups should be dog fight..
I saw a wave Kelly paddled and it was clear the other surfer´s wave. It was a case of heat priority, Kelly was on his
first 20 minutes (no priority) and should have been busted!
My 2cents on heat priority. I think heat priority should be more respected than surfer priority. Surfer on his no priority part of the heat
should be very aware of the surfers with priority on their heat. And in case of calling a interference, it should just be less 2 points of his lowest, but in case of second interference surfer
should leave the water, because he´s not respecting heat priority! Respecting heat priority is key for a good dual heat format. Respect it and at your time you wont have sessions of a perfect wave
coming down sooner cuz some freak is going aggro
About surfer priority, inside the heat, then you´re battling against the guy!choose your weapons!! Go aggro! Or split the peak and smoke your opponent on the exchange, then is all about
strategy, you and your opponent.
life is beatifull, people sometimes just don´t get it..
few last words.. my dog bugs some turists at the beach here sometimes… some turists come to complain asking if the dog is mine, but I pull a dingo on them! Opps.. sorry.. it must have scaped
December 19th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Deano should do the right thing and not take the points for that heat. It’s the honorable way.
December 19th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
dude burned me and I pulled his leash, paddles up ready to roll and asks, “Did you do that on purpose?” I replied, “No. It was an accident.”
I don’t condone it but I’m just saying…. I understand why he probably lied.
December 21st, 2009 at 11:05 am
I’ve known CJ and Damien ever since they were young teenagers. You won’t find two finer characters and ambassadors to the sport. CJ, it’s obvious the people who are making ill comments about you and Damien know little about the sport and less about you two. Just random hate without knowledge or purpose and every message board has idiots like this. You can also tell by some of the 4th grade spelling on these comments we’re not dealing with geniuses. I watched this heat live and was stunned. Anyone who thinks someone could faceplant that hard without their leash being held solid is deceiving themselves. The good thing is Flynn Novak had the guts in his Transworld interview to say the leash was definitely pulled as he had a front row seat in the adjoining heat. The only thing funny about this is Damien’s sense of humor even while he was about as pissed as anyone would be upon surfacing after the fall. Flynn said he started screaming “North Shore”. Now Dean has got to overcome a very tarnished reputation. Here’s where I believe the character and sportsmanship you and Damien have displayed your whole careers will pay off. I hope to see you guys in the coming year. Congratulations on a fantastic year and finish.
Best Regards,
Andrew
December 21st, 2009 at 11:26 am
By the way. ha ha. Horseteeth! I was waiting for that to come up. Comments section in the Stabmag article. Maybe he should’ve smiled and blinded Damien instead with those chiklets. He’d look right with a bit in his mouth and a set of blinders. Looked like a set of teeth with a beard during the interviews.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:58 pm
I’m not sure if its been broken down yet because there are too many posts, but if you watch the video its clear that it was intentional.
At first, both damo and dingo are paddling for the wave. as damo begins to scoot past dingo, you can watch him look for his leash, then his left arm takes a half paddle as compared to the rest of his paddles, and then it grabs and stops paddling, while his right arm continues to paddle the entire time giving the illusion that he was tring to paddle. a classless move by a classless man.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Just too put the fire up… uz in the best wipouts of surfline???
http://www.surfline.com/video/featured-clips/six-weeks-of-wipeouts_39557
HAHAHA!!! Life is f*cked up
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
at the end of the day, we all know that neither Damo or CJ would ever do this to their competitor.
December 23rd, 2009 at 12:08 am
Australian for tow at.
December 23rd, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Dry your eyes girls. Damo hassled him the entire heat and then tried to snake him at the end. It was embarrassing, got what he deserved. That’s why priority exists, any competitive surfer with half a brain would have used their priority there. You’re attacking the character of one of the nicest blokes on the tour. I think the real issue here is that it was an Australian World Champion, Australian Triple Crown and an Australian Pipe Masters. Maybe next time ladies, harden up and quit with the petty comments.
December 23rd, 2009 at 6:25 pm
@ Samsonator, no problem with the australians who win, they are actually stand up guys, only problem is the ones who yank leashes or leggies to do it.
December 26th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
@Samsonator. Before you choke on all three of the Aussie champion’s spigots you may want to let the comments sink in a bit. This forum is regarding a dirty move by ONE of the surfers who couldn’t man up through the rigorous battling that happens in some heats. The true professional is a warrior that uses all LEGAL methods at his disposal, especially in wave starved heats, to win. The ONLY Aussie comeback on all these forums, such as FS, is crying. I saw a river of tears when Taj lost to Kelly at Trestles in ‘08. Taj never really put it on the line in that heat so he lost. Kelly’s repertoire was so far beyond Taj’s flicky half turns in that heat. But it was sooo hard to see through all the bitter Aussie tears. You KNOW Dingoberry is dirty, and that he’s been dirty long before Damien met him in this heat, so save your breath. Bottom line, he was Burkharted becuase his competitor was scared he would lose to a more talented competitor. Otherwise, he should have let him drop in, or better yet, dropped in himself, since the Aussie’s claim he could’ve caught that wave, and caused an interference.
December 26th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Hey Ceej,
I think the solution, like everything else these days its seems, is to go wireless. I’ll contract XM to develop a wireless tethering system to go along with their tangle free and quick release options. it will probably retail for about $20k.
The biggest issue for me is Dingo’s “I had priority” innocence plea and his self empowering decision to “not let the guy without priority have a wave.” Dingo is whack SOLELY because there was no intereference call on Damo.
Maybe the solution is kind of like the challenge flag in football. every competitior gets one judges challenge per year which he can exercise before the end of the heat by a hand signal. This would force the judges to closely evaluate the situation after speaking to the surfers, make a clear decision and then clarify publicly to competitors and spectators. How much attention could the judges pay to the situation without a fair break in the action to allow for proper deliberation.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
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February 3rd, 2010 at 11:34 pm
ex.1// vikings vs. saints playoff game bad calls in overtime keep vikings out of super bowl NFL now say referee calls made on field were wrong (in particular the pass interference call that led to game-winning field goal)
this is related in the debate of. trying to legitimize surfing as a SPORT
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May 6th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Damo, shoot me an e-mail. Thanks
John